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February Red (Taeniopteryx nebulosa & Brachyptera risi)


February Red kamenjarke su vrlo rasprostranjene u svim tipovima salmonidnih - čistih reka.
Taeniopteryx se ističe svojom čudnom osobinom da ne preferira kamenite i brze reke poput ostalih kamenjarki, već za svoje
stanište bira sporije reke, po mogućstvu obrasle vodenim biljem. Brachyptera risi je vrlo slična, ali još rasprostranjenija, jer je
ima u svim tipovima planinskih reka, uključujući i stenovite - bujičave. Vreme njenog rojenja je malo duže od prethodne vrste, pa
je možemo videti od marta do juna, dok Taeniopteryx uglavnom ostaje od februara do aprila.

Ime su dobile po boji tela, koja je braonkasta sa crvenkastom nijansom.

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Ovo su kamenjarke osrednje veličine 1-2 cm. Kao prvi krupniji vodeni insekti u sezoni, doprinose da ribe počnu da se interesuju za
površinu vode. Naravno, to je signal za dry fly fanatike, da već po snegu izađu i uživaju u svom sportu.


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PočaljiNaslov: Re: February Red (Taeniopteryx nebulosa & Brachyptera risi)   February Red (Taeniopteryx nebulosa & Brachyptera risi) EmptyNed 02 Jan 2011, 19:43

A search of modern and antiquarian UK angling literature reveals a significant list of artificial fly patterns
... identified as representing the ‘February Red’; here is just a selection:

FEBRUARY RED (Fly Patterns For the Rivers & Lakes of Wales- Moc Morgan 1984)
Hook: Size 12 & 14.
Thread: Red.
Body: Red wool.
Rib: Gold wire.
Hackle: Dark brown partridge.

FEBRUARY RED (The Art of the Wet Fly - Roger Fogg 1979)
Hook: Size 14.
Thread: Reddish claret.
Body: Reddish claret silk showing at the tail, remainder dubbed light brown seal’s fur.
Hackle: Dark grizzle dun.
Wings: Speckled hen.

FEBRUARY RED (A Book On Angling - Francis Francis 1867)
Hook: Size 14.
Thread: Orange.
Body: Two turns of dirty claret-red mohair at the tail and medium brown mohair with
a strand or two of hare’s ear and claret thrown in for the rest of the body.
Wing: A slip from the back of a peahen.
Hackle: Dark grizzled blue dun cock.

FOUR WINGED BROWN (Trout & Salmon Fishing In Wales – George Agar Hansard 1834)
Hansard describes the pattern as “sometimes called the Red Fly, the Peacock Fly, Dark Brown, Dark Claret etc.”
Hook: Size 14.
Thread: Yellow.
Body: Ruddy black sheep’s wool mingled with orange.
Rib: Yellow floss.
Hackle: Yellowish brown hen.

OLD JOAN (Trout Fishing from All Angles - Eric Taverner 1929)
This is a pattern is described as having its roots in the Llangollen area for use on the Welsh River Dee.
Hook: Size 14.
Thread: Claret.
Body: Dubbed orange seal’s fur dressed ‘rough’.
Hackle: Blue Dun.

OLD JOAN (A Dictionary of Trout Flies - Courtney Williams 1949)
This pattern is described as a Lancashire dressing.
Hook: Size 14.
Thread: Claret.
Body: Dubbed claret seal’s fur dressed ‘rough’.
Hackle: An under covert feather from a woodcock’s wing.

PARRY’S STONE FLY (Fly Patterns For the Rivers & Lakes of Wales- Moc Morgan 1984)
Hook: Size 14.
Thread: Crimson.
Body: Claret quill.
Hackle: Dark rusty dun.

PARTRIDGE & ORANGE (Fly Patterns For the Rivers & Lakes of Wales- Moc Morgan 1984)
Hook: Size 14.
Body: Orange silk.
Hackle: Brown partridge.

PEACOCK FLY (Fly Fishers Guide – G.C.Bainbridge 1840)
Hook: Size 14.
Thread: Mulberry.
Body: Dark peacock herl.
Wings: Starling tied flat over the body.
Hackle: Grizzle.
(Note: Alfred Ronalds in “The Fly Fishers Entomology 1836” provides a different
dressing for the Peacock Fly and describes it as being used as a beetle imitation).

RED FLY (The Fly Fisher’s Entomology - Alfred Ronalds 1839)
Hook: Sized 14.
Thread: Brown.
Body: Dubbed red squirrel fur mixed with an equal amount of claret seal’s fur,
showing mostly claret at the tail.
Wings: Softest feather from a pea-hens wing feather tied flat.
Legs: Dyed claret.

RED FLY (Handbook Of Angling - Edward Fitzgibbon 1847)
Hook Size 14.
Thread: Brown.
Body: Dubbed dark red squirrel fur, mixed with an equal quantity
of claret coloured seal’s fur; showing mostly claret at the tail.
Wings: From a ginger-dun covert feather of a mallard’s wing.
Hackle: Dyed claret.

RED FLY (A Concise Treatise On The Art Of Angling – Thomas Best 1808)
Hook: Size 14.
Body: Dubbed red squirrel fur.
Wings: A dark drake’s feather.
Hackle: Natural red cock.
Note; an identical pattern to this is also given by Charles Bowlker
... in his “Art Of Angling” – 1854

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PočaljiNaslov: Re: February Red (Taeniopteryx nebulosa & Brachyptera risi)   February Red (Taeniopteryx nebulosa & Brachyptera risi) EmptyPon 03 Jan 2011, 13:39

Hi Ray,
It would be nice to see some of these patterns.
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Hi Mix
Will try to tie some of them soon.

Ray
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Here are a selection of the patterns that I've tied up today from the above list;
it is interesting to see that the shade/colour of the patterns varies a lot between
the different authors over the centuries.

Ray

February Red (Taeniopteryx nebulosa & Brachyptera risi) Qq607t

February Red (Taeniopteryx nebulosa & Brachyptera risi) W00pqb

February Red (Taeniopteryx nebulosa & Brachyptera risi) X0v5s9

February Red (Taeniopteryx nebulosa & Brachyptera risi) 161kpk7

February Red (Taeniopteryx nebulosa & Brachyptera risi) 314ymug
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Hi Ray,
No doubt - you match the colors. Please tell us, why wet fly patterns?
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Hi Mix
That is a good question and I'm not sure I have the answer. scratch

I've just tried to reproduce the patterns as they have been descibed in the old books where the majority of them are wet fly patterns.

I think the reason may be that the only adult stoneflies available to fish in any number are the egg laying females that either dip down or run/swim on the surface to depsit their eggs and many of these get washed away by the currents; it would make some sense to imitate this stage and these 'drowned' flies may be the reason why many of the old traditional stoneflies patterns were tied as wet flies. But I don't know that for sure.

Some of the patterns from the old books are already described with cock hackles and I'll tie up and post some of these soon. I also think adding a cock hackle to many of the wet patterns would also produce dry flies that would catch fish.

Ray
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Hi Ray!! This what u done looks great !!Well done mate !!
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Hi Rzanac

Many thanks.

Ray
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Polupotopljena, tacnije samo je telo u filmu....telo i grudi veverica,krila sapa, udica tmc #14

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Na Neretvi sam je vidio par komada baš prije 3 dana
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Dobra imitacija, Oholi. Još flomasterom da joj našaraš krila i biće kao prava.
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Mogao bih, ali me mrzi, mozda ofarbam jednu sapu u neku sivkastu boju. a na ovoj se krila odozdo skoro i ne vide, provide se posto
samo rub krila viri okolo pa izgleda kao da je proziran. inace ovakve imitacije su mi se fenomenalno pokazale. lako se rade plivaju
savrseno vide se jos bolje, a riba ih voli...
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