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Ray Lockyer
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PočaljiNaslov: Old Fly Wallet   Old Fly Wallet EmptyPet 15 Jan 2010, 23:19

Recently I was very pleased to receive an old fly wallet from a friend, the wallet was produced as "The Companion to Alfred Ronald's Fly Fishers Entomology" with extracts from the Sixth Edition (published in 1862) - see the attached photographs.

The leather wallet pig skin has two pockets at front and one at the rear, it also has typed Thirteen parchment pages (front cover and twelve pages giving recommended flies for each month of the fishing season), also six double sided parchment pages of cast pockets and a single plain parchment page in the center of the wallet. The wallet also contained a few old flies tied directly to the gut casts.

The UK Wheatley fly box museum site show a similar number of wallets and suggests manufacturing dates of between 1862 and 1912; Clive Edwards at the museum has looked at photographs of the wallet and commented as follows:

"This is one of the earlier types that can be Allocated to Wheatley. As it is the unmarked maker can never be Positively identified. There are many types of Ronald Fly Wallets or Books and the museum have a number of them in the collection.

I have listed below the recommended 9 flies on the pages for March in the wallet:

· Red Fly (February Red or Old Joan)

· Blue Dun (Also called the Cock Cock Tail Wing or in earlier editions)

· Red Spinner

· Water Cricket

· Great Dark Drone

· Cowdung Fly

· Peacock Fly (a beetle)

· March Brown

· Great Red Spinner (Spinner of the March Brown)

I have got dressings for the above from the Second Edition (1839), please let me know if you want details.

The photograph of the Blue Duns, tied to the gut, do not appear to be original as their bodies look to be dubbed with mole's fur and the Ronald's dressing calls for the use of dubbed hare's fur.

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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Old Fly Wallet   Old Fly Wallet EmptySub 16 Jan 2010, 09:28

Hi Ray
This is history mate...we want more details cheers study study study
What is gut casts? scratch scratch
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Old Fly Wallet   Old Fly Wallet EmptySub 16 Jan 2010, 18:58

Hi Madjoni

Nylon discovereed was not until 1935, I do not know exactly when nylon monofilament came to the fly fishing world.

Before the discovery of nylon, leaders were made from silkworm gut.

I'm told that silk worm gut was produced by opening up the silkworm larva just before it was going to pupate and two 'sacks' or organs were removed. These sacks would have been used by the pupa to produced silk for construction of their cocoon. When the sacks were extracted they were somehow pulled apart to produce a thread known as silk worm gut. Hope that makes sense!

Before eyed hooks became popular, fishing hooks were whipped directly to the gut - so flies were tied onto the hooks with gut leader already attached. That is what is shown in the photo of the Blue Duns.

Ray
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Old Fly Wallet   Old Fly Wallet EmptySub 16 Jan 2010, 19:06

Hi Ray
Very edifying stuff.....now we want more cheers cheers study study study
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Old Fly Wallet   Old Fly Wallet EmptySub 16 Jan 2010, 19:39

Mladjen
Do you now understand silk worm gut?

Ray
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Old Fly Wallet   Old Fly Wallet EmptySub 16 Jan 2010, 19:57

Ray Lockyer ::
Mladjen
Do you now understand silk worm gut?

Ray
yes
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Old Fly Wallet   Old Fly Wallet EmptySub 16 Jan 2010, 20:12

Good man Laughing

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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Old Fly Wallet   Old Fly Wallet EmptySub 16 Jan 2010, 21:46

Ray Lockyer ::
Good man Laughing

well ,i can be good,mad but never the bad.... Shocked this sound like a song Laughing Laughing santa
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Old Fly Wallet   Old Fly Wallet EmptyUto 28 Jun 2011, 12:34

A simple wallet suitable for wet flies, nymphs or streamers, even a spare leader or two. Made of sturdy leather it has three sheets of high quality felt sewn in the center and folded making twelve surfaces.

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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Old Fly Wallet   Old Fly Wallet EmptyČet 30 Jun 2011, 20:42

That is it exactly - only the moths had been at work on the high quality felt sheets of the wallet I have Crying or Very sad

Ray
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